vanisleva.com Forum Index vanisleva.com
ViVa's pilot forum
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 


Flash chat

Look out Eric/Bill

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    vanisleva.com Forum Index -> Real World Aviation
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Jeff
Serious Forum Addict...


Joined: 08 Jul 2007
Posts: 6781
Location: Langley BC

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:52 pm    Post subject: Look out Eric/Bill Reply with quote





Shocked Shocked Shocked More U.S. Navy jets could worsen rumble in Victoria area

Some people in Victoria, B.C., are worried about a plan to add more EA-18G Growler jets at a naval station on Whidbey Island in Washington State.

There have long been complaints that Growler flights at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island about 50 kilometres across the water from Victoria cause a rumble on southern Vancouver Island.

"It's not so much the noise as the actual vibration. You can feel this in your bones," said Oak Bay resident Edward Lien, one many Canadians who have complained to the U.S. Navy about the noise in the past.

The U.S. Navy plans to add up to 36 more Growler jets to its existing fleet of 82 at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island.

EA-18 Growlers are capable of jamming communication and launch signals. In documentation for the plan, the U.S. Navy says adding more of the jets will "support an expanded U.S. Department of Defense mission for identifying, tracking and targeting in a complex electronic warfare environment."

Public consultations for the expansion are being held in Washington State communities but not on Vancouver Island.

"The least they could do would be to better explain what they are going to do and what they have done by way of sound mitigation and what they can do," said Laurie McBride, who also hears the rumble at his house in Victoria.

Noise reduction technology

The U.S. Navy is working on new technology that could help reduce the noise from Growler flights, said Ted Brown, a public affairs officer for U.S. Fleet Forces Command.

Modifications could include adding technology known as chevrons to reduce engine noise from the jets.

The U.S. Navy is also considering technology that could reduce the number of training flights by adding more automation to aircraft carrier approaches and landings, Brown said.

"We try to be a good neighbour where we fly. We try to work with the community to develop procedures when we can, without impacting the mission, to minimize community noise impacts," he said.

"Everywhere we fly, there are obviously some people who are not particularly happy about the noise."

It's not entirely clear whether the rumble heard on southern Vancouver Island comes from the Growlers jets based on Whidbey Island or from other military operations over the Olympic Peninsula, Brown added.

While there will not be any public consultation meetings held on Vancouver Island, Brown said Canadians are welcome to give feedback through the online feedback form that is also part of the consultation process.

San Juan Islands concerned

The plan to increase Growler operations is also raising concern south of the border in the San Juan Islands, which are located between Victoria and Whidbey Island.

People move to the San Juan Islands for the peace and quiet and don't expect to deal with noise from air traffic, said Rick Hughes, a councillor in San Juan County.

"We support the U.S. Navy's presence in the area. We just want them to be better neighbours," he said.

Hughes said people in San Juan County are pushing the U.S. Navy to implement the noise reduction technology on the aircraft, or potentially reduce the the number of flights through virtual training technology.

The public comment period on the Growler expansion plan ends on Jan. 25, 2017.
_________________
Jeff

"beware the granite overcast"

Intel Core i7 - Western Digital 64mb Hard drive - MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit O/S - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 Video card FS9 - FSX
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Islander
Serious Forum Addict...


Joined: 09 Mar 2005
Posts: 3869
Location: Sidney, B.C.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the heads-up Jeff Laughing Laughing .

Hope they make the occasional hot pass over here. In related news, it seems Justin is
going to buy some F-18E's for our entertainment. It'll be interesting to see if they sound
much different from the existing CF-18's that are frequent visitors here to CYYJ...
_________________
Eric
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Jeff
Serious Forum Addict...


Joined: 08 Jul 2007
Posts: 6781
Location: Langley BC

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Shocked They sure are expensive!!!!!!
_________________
Jeff

"beware the granite overcast"

Intel Core i7 - Western Digital 64mb Hard drive - MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit O/S - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 Video card FS9 - FSX
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
vi4094
Serious Forum Addict...


Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 3996
Location: CYYJ

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bring it on . . . music to my ears. (just no helos -- now that's noise)
People in Victoria spend much of their time whining so that's nothing new; they're going to complain anyway so it may as well be about Whidbey NAS.
We have fond memories of Whidbey after clearing YYJ Zone, Whidbey was our next ATC call on our way to Seattle VFR -- about twenty times per summer Laughing
_________________

Bill Irvine, CYYJ,AMD-FX 8350 8-Core 4GHz 16MB Cache/ Gigabyte Ultra 970A-DS3P Motherboard/ WIN7/ AMD Radeon R9 270 OC Edition, 8GB RAM; Repainter, PhotoShop_v.7; YouTube video producer
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    vanisleva.com Forum Index -> Real World Aviation All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group